Reps. Mark Meadows and Jim Jordan Friday argued that President Donald Trump couldn't have obstructed justice, as his staffers did not carry out some of his more controversial requests.
The three men sparred on CNN's "New Day," when network anchor Chris Cuomo asked them during a joint interview about statements made in special counsel Robert Mueller's report concerning Trump directing former counsel Don McGahn to take steps toward removing Mueller from the investigation.
“The president goes to Don McGahn and says, ‘you need to do this to stop this,’ and the guy has to threaten to resign or leave for it not to happen,” said Cuomo. “And you ignore it. I think that matters too.”
Jordan, R-Ohio, and Meadows, R-N.C., though, argued that because McGahn refused, that means there was no obstruction.
“Asking matters, Jim,” Cuomo told Jordan. "If I ask you to punch Mr. Meadows and you don’t do it, the request was still wrong.”
“Yeah, the request may have been wrong, but it’s not a crime unless he assaults me,” Meadows said.
Meanwhile, the investigation was biased from the beginning, Meadows insisted.
"You know, we had James Comey, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, and then we had Bob Mueller coming into it, right after he gets turned down for a job as the FBI director," Meadows said. "Somehow people forget that and so to suggest that there was no bias at the predicate of this investigation is not accurate and I think we will see that in the coming days."
Jordan added that he does not agree with Trump's contention that Russia did not interfere in the 2016 election, but he does not think any collusion came into play.
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